Bier for Jamie: Our NHC Weissbier Finalist

by Katie Sloan | Updated: June 20, 2017

Note: Photo taken in NYC not Minneapolis.

We went to the NHC Finals!

Both physically and with our beer! Sorry bitches, vaca!

So, what did we bring to the table? (Spoiler alert, it didn’t bring home gold, or silver, ok, ok, or bronze)

We created a hefeweizen called “Bier for Jaime” (that’s pronounced “hi-may”, btw) this past winter that took second place in its category in regionals, and received a score of 38. I believe that is (Jon next to me on the couch is now nodding in confirmation) our highest score to date! Woohoo!

The origin of this beer in our lineup is interesting… as it always is with us. It also isn’t the most traditional weissen as it contains a bit of lemongrass which might be the special touch that puts it over the edge. (oops)

We created this recipe for our buddy and his wife. His name is James (if you couldn’t guess). He took the name Jaime for freshman Spanish class and his friends still call him that to this day.

Every year Jaime and his wife travel to the Outer Banks of NC for a break from the crazy city. There is a brewery down there called Outer Banks Brewing Station.

This brewery makes a lemongrass wheat beer that they love! We decided to brew them a batch this past Christmas so they did not have to wait until August to enjoy a touch of the south in their mouth.

You should have seen their faces when we showed up with multiple cases of beer on their doorstep for our holiday meet up!

How’d we brew it?

To create this “clone”, we did a bit of web research, but there was very little information to go off of on the website. We had tasted the beer the summer before, a single can was all they could spare for their poor NYC friends who don’t get to go to the beach.

Since there was such limited guidance we decided to brew a tasty hefeweizen and add the lemongrass to recreate the brew. The one hint we did have was that the brewery does use Weihenstephan style yeast in their other beer, Hugh Hefeweizen, for that distinct flavor and aroma.

That is me judging someone else’s beer

Why did we choose to enter this brew over our others?

We are fortunate in the NYC homebrew scene to have a “pre”-competition to the big NHC first round. It is called Homebrew Alley and our club hosts it in February every year.

It is a great testing ground for NHC.

We entered our lemongrass wheat into the spiced, herb, vegetable category. Because, to be fair, that was where it belonged.

It did well, but it didn’t place or earn us any street cred.

The comments were mostly that it was a delicious weissbier with not enough lemongrass character to make it an outstanding spice, herb, vegetable beer. (Isn’t that always the case? Why do we always make beers in that category?!?)

Side story…

The last time we had a beer in the finals for NHC it was also originally a S, H, V beer. (Sorry I got tired of typing that category out, you can follow along can’t you?)

We made a chestnut brown ale one year for Christmas. Ya know, chestnuts roasting on an open fire….Our friends loved it! We entered it into Homebrew Alley – the testing ground.

Our comments were almost the same, great base beer, but not enough nut character to make it a S, H, V beer. Try it in English Brown Ale.

So, we did. And we got second place in the category and went to the finals. The beer did make it to the MBOS (Mini best of Show) for the category, but that was it.

Creepiest part? One of the homebrew alley judges was the same person both times! Eek!

End side story.

The most unfortunate part of Bier for Jaime’s story is that we entered the last two bottles of the original brew into NHC first round. So we had to re-brew, ugh. We made a couple tweaks based off of the notes we received from both competitions.

Here are some of the comments we received:

Homebrew Alley

  • 32 overall, no placement
  • “Delicious weissbier with notes of bananas and cloves and mild grainy malt flavors. Lemongrass is so subtle it is barely detectable however I believe it brightened this beer up making it an amazing weissbier.”
  • “This is a great example of a classic weiss……the hint of lemongrass seems to have brightened the whole beer. However I was excited to try this and would have loved more lemongrass flavor. A change in the amount of lemongrass to get it to come through. Great beer though!”
  • “A well balance of malt with some breadiness, banana and clove are strong with low hop flavor and sweetness, no discernable lemongrass”
  • “A good example of this style, no lemongrass detected. This is an excellent example of a weissbier, just needs more lemongrass.”


  • 38 overall, 2nd place in category
  • “Banana and clove dominant, hop bitterness slightly high for style. Perceived sweetness low as a result.”
  • “Thin mouthfeel changes the bitterness perception of this beer.”
  • “Hits most of the major marks for style. Watch carb level and could be a touch thin.”

What changes did we make to improve based on these notes?

  • We focused on the malt profile.
  • We upped our Carapils® for body and head retention.
  • We added acidulated malt to help adjust the mash pH to have better sugar and dextrin extraction.

We also experimented with bottle conditioning the beer verses bottling off the keg. We tasted the brew both ways. The kegged version won out on flavor although the bottle conditioned version did have fantastic head retention. We decided flavor is a touch more important overall.

The last big change we made was a few water editions to create a better environment for the malts to shine. We added epsom salt and calcium chloride to our NYC water for a more malt focused brew.

Below is the new and improved recipe. We think it tastes fantastic. Can’t wait to hear what the judges had to say.

Bier for Jamie Recipe


Brew Method: All Grain

Style Name: Weissbier

Boil Time: 60 min

Boil Volume: 7.5G

Batch Size: 5.25G (fermentor volume)

Efficiency: 72%

OG: 1.047

FG: 1.008

ABV: 5.1%

IBUs: 12

SRM: 5


3lbs (28.4%) – White Wheat Malt

2lbs (19%) – Vienna Malt

1lb 12oz (16.6%) – Flaked Wheat

1lb 10.8oz (15.9%) Pale Malt (2 row)

1lb (9.5%) – Cara-Pils

6oz (3.6%) – Acidulated

4oz (2.4%) – Caracrystal Wheat


.35oz – Sorachi Ace @ First Wort

.5oz – Styrian Goldings @ 20 min

.25oz – Sorachi Ace @ 0 min


Wyeast Labs, Weihenstephan Weizen #3068

Starter: no

Form: Smack pack

Fermentation Temp: Pitched at 68℉

Katie has a passion for all things beer. She worked at The Bronx Brewery as the Tasting Room supervisor and helped develop homebrew classes to be taught there. She came to homebrewing through the Cicerone® program. She is a Certified Cicerone® but does not plan on stopping there. She also has taken the BJCP exam. She teaches children’s dance classes in her spare time and used to be a professional dancer herself. Katie resides in NYC where she makes it work in her small apartment with plenty of help from her boyfriend Jon and the homebrewery cat Merlin.